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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:20 pm 
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AJWest wrote:
Why on earth are you running 750 under a seat to unevenly weight a surfgate boat that much?
I find on my regular side 2-3 hundred extra pounds helps.. on goofy it does not apear to have an affect.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:39 pm 
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r33pwrd wrote:
AJWest wrote:
Why on earth are you running 750 under a seat to unevenly weight a surfgate boat that much?
I find on my regular side 2-3 hundred extra pounds helps.. on goofy it does not apear to have an affect.

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True and I continue to mess with that but 750?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:21 pm 
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But I agree I ran a 800 on surf side and wave was shit..

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:54 pm 
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AJWest wrote:
Why on earth are you running 750 under a seat to unevenly weight a surfgate boat that much?

I don't fill it up full and honestly even though its not ideal, I get the best wake by doing it. Ive tried throwing it in the walkway and the wake was worse. Going to try 400s under each side seat so its even next time. Also ill throw lead around where needed.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:15 pm 
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If I was you I would put that bag in the center of the boat so the front of the bag is next to the driver (mid weight not front or rear) and all the PHP filled to max and try it out.. that prop will help a ton.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:10 am 
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r33pwrd wrote:
If I was you I would put that bag in the center of the boat so the front of the bag is next to the driver (mid weight not front or rear) and all the PHP filled to max and try it out.. that prop will help a ton.

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Im not a fan on putting bags in the boat (to be seen). The guys over at ACME said i wouldn't need the more aggressive prop as hes heard people running 7k to 8k lbs of ballast in their boat with my current prop. They said to add more weight in the front to level out the boat. Right now my speed control is dinging at me every 15sec. So it can't hold my speed with the front to back weight ratio.

Will test this wknd...


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:02 am 
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If you can't hold speed, it really is a function of the prop shaft angle as I said upthread. A more aggressive prop still won't push the boat *forward* if the angle of the propshaft is too great. It'll just continue to dig in, albeit more aggressively with higher RPMs and more gas burn.

You need to get the bow down if you are running into a speed wall.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:48 am 
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Your speed control should not be beeping every 15 seconds. Do you have the throttle pushed far enough down? Once mine beeps it doesn't beep again unless I cut the throttle and start over.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:13 pm 
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ndahlberg12 wrote:
Your speed control should not be beeping every 15 seconds. Do you have the throttle pushed far enough down? Once mine beeps it doesn't beep again unless I cut the throttle and start over.


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Yeah its down far enough, I haven't noticed it beep a lot when I'm on glassy water. But when there's ANY sort of wave the thing beeps constantly...


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Axis A22 Rolly/Flat Wakesurf Wave Problem
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:18 pm 
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I am noticing that my wave is not washy at all until its to the other side of the wake? When I turn to the right (viewed from driver looking forward) the wake gets steeper by a lot and the washyness moves to just on top of the surfside wake, creating a massive steep wake, why? The only reason I can come up with is that the surfgate is getting buried more on that side. But I dont know what else could cause it? Do I need 1100s in the back and even more weight in the front to bury SG even more or what?...


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