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 Post subject: Re: Newbie T22 ballast question
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:48 am 
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I had one bag from my old direct drive that I would put in front of the back seats. I have one still in the box from wake makers so i would think I can return that one. When I talked to wakemakers on what I needed to install in the axis, they just told me to get a couple of fittings that screw into the bag. I guess I should have waited and asked you guys first. Lesson learned.

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 Post subject: Re: Newbie T22 ballast question
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:27 am 
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At this point, since you are switching bags anyway, I'd very strongly recommend going with 750s or sumo 600s instead.

The sumos use bigger ports and have a vent built into the bag, so they are easier to vent.

I am speaking from experience here. I have a T22 with sumo 900s (which basically weigh the same when filled as the fly high 1100s). I am running a sumo pnp bag under the bow seats, 150 in lead tucked in the very front of the bow, and a fly high 1000lb triangle (on its own johnson reversible pump) on top of the seats. I also have the 450 motor.

The only way I can run my 900s full is if I have a very light crew (2-3 in the boat max), all sitting forward in the cabin, with the seat-top sack full enough to bounce a quarter on it. Must have calm water because that bow is low when you come off plane.

If you have people in the boat (say 6 or so), it's just too much weight, even with the 450. Bow rise will be insane (and I also have the 4" seat riser box) and you'll end up hitting a "speed wall" at under 11 where the boat won't go faster.

If I had it to do over again I'd do 600 sumos for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie T22 ballast question
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:45 pm 
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If I order the sumo's. Do you know what fittings and hose? Or should I just go with the wakemakers rear plug n play kits? Are the wakemakers sumo brand? I thought they were there own brand but from the picture it looks like they are sumos.


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie T22 ballast question
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:19 pm 
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The WakeMakers are their own brand, their picture is crap. The fittings for the Sumo and WakeMakers brand are the same.

The bag to P&P port fittings are (1" NPT to 1" Flow-Rite)
https://www.wakemakers.com/launch-pad-1 ... tting.html

The hose to the above fitting are this (for vent line)
https://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-pro ... -w746.html (elbow)
https://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-pro ... -w741.html (straight

Make sure you get SS hose clamps and some extra feet of ballast tubing just in case

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 Post subject: Re: Newbie T22 ballast question
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:17 pm 
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Vent/overflow tapping into drain line.

Per side you will need:
6 ss hose clamps
1 Y fitting
1 1" male fitting for bag
1 90° 1" female quick connect fitting
3' of 1&1/8" ballast line
1 1&1/8" wake makers check valve.ImageImage

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