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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:50 am 
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I very rarely use the wedge it makes the wave very steep and a bit shorter.


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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:07 am 
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80AMT23, quick question about your ballast bags:
Why did you go with the 825's instead of 900s or 1100s?

I'm coming from Sumo 900s on my sold 2013 A22, which supposedly held 1000 lbs. I heard the 825s are custom fit, but it seems like there should be a lot more space, especially since the T23 is a larger boat with a deeper hull than my old 2013..

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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:29 am 
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DC_Rager wrote:
80AMT23, quick question about your ballast bags:
Why did you go with the 825's instead of 900s or 1100s?

I'm coming from Sumo 900s on my sold 2013 A22, which supposedly held 1000 lbs. I heard the 825s are custom fit, but it seems like there should be a lot more space, especially since the T23 is a larger boat with a deeper hull than my old 2013..


So I was told by WakeMakers that they went to the Malibu factory and did custom scans of the rear compartments and made the bags to fit those dimensions exactly. There's even a little hip at the bottom front of the bag to extend to that area to connect to the plug and play. Completely full, the bags come right to the top of the fiberglass surrounding the compartment, so there's maybe 4 inches of space between that and the doors. They also told me they designed the bags to be that weight so when absolutely full the surfgate isn't sitting too far under the water. They said with much more rear weight the surfgate will sit too low and not perform as well and the wave would be washy. This is just what they said though. This could always be tested with a couple fat friends on the back.

I don't know exactly what the 1100s look like back there when totally fully but since they are longer than the dimensions of the compartment I can't believe they are getting completely full especially if they gotta squeeze under the front of the compartment to connect to the plug and play. Are you really getting 300 more lbs in there? idk.

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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:04 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:27 pm 
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Gibbs- Do you think you are getting pretty close to the 1100 lb capacity in your bags? Also, are these the bags you have:
https://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-201 ... -1100.html

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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:33 pm 
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I say probably 1000lbs and yes that's the bag.


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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:51 pm 
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Looks like those bags are discontinued so my choices are between the 'custom' WakeMaker 825s for $499.00 or a set of the new 2017 Straight Line Sumo 1000s for $360.
https://www.wakemakers.com/straight-lin ... t-bag.html

Gibbs- Do you see the issue that WakeMakers told 80AMT23 with too much rear weight causing your surfgate to drop under water too much thus negatively affecting your wave? Because if not, looks like the Sumo 1000s are the best bang for the buck.

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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:15 pm 
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DC_Rager wrote:
Looks like those bags are discontinued so my choices are between the 'custom' WakeMaker 825s for $499.00 or a set of the new 2017 Straight Line Sumo 1000s for $360.
https://www.wakemakers.com/straight-lin ... t-bag.html

Gibbs- Do you see the issue that WakeMakers told 80AMT23 with too much rear weight causing your surfgate to drop under water too much thus negatively affecting your wave? Because if not, looks like the Sumo 1000s are the best bang for the buck.


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Here's a picture of the WakeMaker's bags all the way full. You don't have to get the Fly High Malibu kit as I'm pretty sure there's nothing different from the regular 1100s with the dual train port on them. One benefit to the WakeMakers/Sumo bags is the port sizes are larger so the fill and drain time is faster, to a degree. The WakeMakers kit also comes with all the quick connect fittings you need. Not a huge deal, but it saves you like 30 bucks I believe.

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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:41 am 
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I haven't had any issues with my 1100's but it does require extra weight in the front.Image
I also run lead in the bow.


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 Post subject: Re: NewT23 for surfing
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:38 am 
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Gibbs, you're not venting your 1100s out the top?

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