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All this talk and not one mention of which prop hes running? I bet hes running too much pitch. I had that issue in my a20. Boat came with a 2277 and it wouldnt move a fully weighted boat. Had to go to a 2249. Now i can surf all day with 750’s in the rear, a 400 bow bag, and 500 pounds in lead.

So it looks like it was due to too much weight in the back. Took it out with no weight and cruise control is working just fine. Wasn't out long so didn't take the time to fill the ballasts.

In terms of prop, it's on the stock prop, but that's to the extent of what I know. No idea which prop it is.

JChi wrote:

Stock prop is a Acme 2249 15x14.25. If your rear bags fill all the way to the top of the sun pad covers they are the flyhigh 750's if you still have a about 5" of space for jackets and ropes they are the 550's. If you are running that much weight in the rear without enough bow weight you are most likely burying your surf gates which will make your surf wave suffer.

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]IMHO the T22 doesn't need a ton of weight. At least the prior gen doesn't (2014-17). This is from yesterday in our 16 with three in the boat, full factory ballast, wedge down, and about 300 in each rear sack. More weight doesn't really make it much better.

https://vimeo.com/286777235

(can't get this to embed properly, sorry)

What board is that? You make it look effortless.

The way the cruise works on boats is to reduce the amount the throttle you have set (this is backwards from cars). So the cruise cannot give push the throttle forward. When it is at a point where it is not backing off at all and still not at speed, it will ask for more throttle. It is not smart enough to give a better message like "I am dying here, get a new prop with less pitch", or "throw a couple of passengers overboard to allow me to hold speed".

This is important to understand because you want the throttle to be just a little above where it needs to be so the speed control will hold steady without hunting.

Check Prop was my guess. If you do not have a good torque prop you will have issues. Get the number off the prop and we can see if that is a problem.

Author:	r33pwrd [ Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 2018 T22 won’t get up to cruise speed surfing?
onewake09 wrote: All this talk and not one mention of which prop hes running? I bet hes running too much pitch. I had that issue in my a20. Boat came with a 2277 and it wouldnt move a fully weighted boat. Had to go to a 2249. Now i can surf all day with 750’s in the rear, a 400 bow bag, and 500 pounds in lead. He says he is running 4k rpms... and no now weight.. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Author:	JChi [ Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2018 T22 won’t get up to cruise speed surfing?
So it looks like it was due to too much weight in the back. Took it out with no weight and cruise control is working just fine. Wasn't out long so didn't take the time to fill the ballasts. In terms of prop, it's on the stock prop, but that's to the extent of what I know. No idea which prop it is.

Author:	steveA20 [ Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:11 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2018 T22 won’t get up to cruise speed surfing?
JChi wrote: So it looks like it was due to too much weight in the back. Took it out with no weight and cruise control is working just fine. Wasn't out long so didn't take the time to fill the ballasts. In terms of prop, it's on the stock prop, but that's to the extent of what I know. No idea which prop it is. Stock prop is a Acme 2249 15x14.25. If your rear bags fill all the way to the top of the sun pad covers they are the flyhigh 750's if you still have a about 5" of space for jackets and ropes they are the 550's. If you are running that much weight in the rear without enough bow weight you are most likely burying your surf gates which will make your surf wave suffer. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Author:	JChi [ Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2018 T22 won’t get up to cruise speed surfing?
steveA20 wrote: JChi wrote: So it looks like it was due to too much weight in the back. Took it out with no weight and cruise control is working just fine. Wasn't out long so didn't take the time to fill the ballasts. In terms of prop, it's on the stock prop, but that's to the extent of what I know. No idea which prop it is. Stock prop is a Acme 2249 15x14.25. If your rear bags fill all the way to the top of the sun pad covers they are the flyhigh 750's if you still have a about 5" of space for jackets and ropes they are the 550's. If you are running that much weight in the rear without enough bow weight you are most likely burying your surf gates which will make your surf wave suffer. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Then I have 550's for the bags. Thanks for the tip! I usually don't fill both bags 100%. One will be 100% and the other 50-75% filled. I think the issue was the fact that I usually only have one extra person inside the boat while surfing and this time there was 4 people inside the back of the boat at the time. I'll definitely fill the bow next time. Thanks everybody.

Author:	Clayne100 [ Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:52 pm ]
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shawndoggy wrote: ]IMHO the T22 doesn't need a ton of weight. At least the prior gen doesn't (2014-17). This is from yesterday in our 16 with three in the boat, full factory ballast, wedge down, and about 300 in each rear sack. More weight doesn't really make it much better. https://vimeo.com/286777235 (can't get this to embed properly, sorry) What board is that? You make it look effortless. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Author:	shawndoggy [ Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:30 pm ]
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Clayne100 wrote: What board is that? You make it look effortless. Thanks! Victoria factor pcx.

Author:	WayneTuttle [ Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:17 pm ]
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The way the cruise works on boats is to reduce the amount the throttle you have set (this is backwards from cars). So the cruise cannot give push the throttle forward. When it is at a point where it is not backing off at all and still not at speed, it will ask for more throttle. It is not smart enough to give a better message like "I am dying here, get a new prop with less pitch", or "throw a couple of passengers overboard to allow me to hold speed". This is important to understand because you want the throttle to be just a little above where it needs to be so the speed control will hold steady without hunting.

Author:	r33pwrd [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:43 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 2018 T22 won’t get up to cruise speed surfing?
WayneTuttle wrote: The way the cruise works on boats is to reduce the amount the throttle you have set (this is backwards from cars). So the cruise cannot give push the throttle forward. When it is at a point where it is not backing off at all and still not at speed, it will ask for more throttle. It is not smart enough to give a better message like "I am dying here, get a new prop with less pitch", or "throw a couple of passengers overboard to allow me to hold speed". This is important to understand because you want the throttle to be just a little above where it needs to be so the speed control will hold steady without hunting. I always put the throttle all the way to 100 percent... Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Author:	admin [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 2018 T22 won’t get up to cruise speed surfing?
Check Prop was my guess. If you do not have a good torque prop you will have issues. Get the number off the prop and we can see if that is a problem.

Author:	shawndoggy [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:01 am ]
Post subject:	Re: 2018 T22 won’t get up to cruise speed surfing?
admin wrote: Check Prop was my guess. If you do not have a good torque prop you will have issues. Get the number off the prop and we can see if that is a problem. with the 6.0 in the 18s I really disagree -- more prop will give you more RPMs but it won't push a mis-weighted (unbalanced) boat through the water any faster. OP says he's already at 4k rpms. Read the pcm/crusader manual.... MAX cruising rpms are 4200.

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