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 Post subject: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:55 pm 
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For those with the pcm 409 what are you running? 2017 T23 here and Manual says 87 with less then 10% ethanol but then throws in the "for optimal performance" use 93. Not even available local here :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:13 am 
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I use 93 if available, if not 91. Probably overkill, but I don't want any ethanol in there. It is hard on seals & gaskets.

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 Post subject: Re: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:20 am 
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Is the ethanol in these engines any harder on the seals and gaskets than the same motor in a car/truck? To my knowledge my truck runs fine on 87. Is it an issue because they're constantly run at higher RPM?

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 Post subject: Re: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:50 am 
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My old boat it recommended 93 and if I didn't the engine would ping. With the 409 I have been using 87 and haven't heard or felt one hiccup.


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 Post subject: Re: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:22 am 
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I use 87. 200 hours and no problems


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 Post subject: Re: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:12 pm 
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Indmar L96 engine using 89 octane per manual. I'm at 594 elevation.

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 Post subject: Re: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:12 pm 
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Thanks gents,


Have been filling it up with 91 but will consider 87 next tank and see if I hear or feel any difference. Pretty sure 91 in ca still has ethanol but I could be wrong

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 Post subject: Re: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:41 am 
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Can't get 93 around here (probably an altitude thing). The pumps have 85, 87, and 91. I run 85 in the car without any problems. The boat manual says 87 minimum, and that's all I can get at the lake. But I put 91 in there when I'm filling it at the gas station. This is all 10% ethanol gas.

There is an 88 no-ethanol station around here though. I plan to put that in there for the winter at least. If it was more convenient, maybe that's all I'd use. It costs the same as the 91 with ethanol.


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 Post subject: Re: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:34 pm 
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Download the PureGas App to find fuel without ethanol. That is all I have ever used in my boat. It is typically 91-93 octane Marine fuel

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 Post subject: Re: What fuel are you running??
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:04 am 
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Why do yall waste money on non-ethanol gas? All marine engines since 2007 have been engineered to work just fine with ethanol gas. I've spoken directly to PCM about this. They claim it's a waste.

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